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    Greatness...


    Surprised? I was too when I typed in "greatness" in a search engine. I had been in a debate about the greatness of this man years ago, but I still didn’t expect to see his picture. Yet I agree; Even though he was an evil bastard, he was great. Do you agree? Why, or why not?
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    Depends what you mean by "great." If you mean that he is "great" in the sense that he is a genuinely good guy who gave a lot of positive things to the world, then there's something seriously wrong with you. Goes without saying, he exterminated millions of people; Jews, gypsies, blacks, homosexuals... etc. And he was of course, for the most part, responsible for the most horrific war in the history of humanity.

    Was he "great" in the sense that he made an enormous impact on history? Surely sure, again, it almost goes without saying... he will never be forgotten, he had an enormous impact on world politics, philosophy... even the way we reflect on ourselves as human beings.

    The one thing that can be said is that, everything about Hitler was extreme. He took his ideas to extremes that most of us don't dare approach. Was he a madman? Probably. But in every sense he was at least "greatly" evil, that can at least be said. So in one sense, yes, I suppose you can all him "great."
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    we need more leaders like him........j/k.......for real though, he led a country out of a depression though. he was extreme, but he thought it was for the better and so did his people, which was like, all of Germany. so, he was great in a sense.
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    Yeah, some people have a problem using positive terms like 'great' to define a guy like Hitler. But you have to admit, as far as being a psychopathic, self-deluded, egomaniacal dictator, he was more than great. He was downright amazing at it.

    When it came to killing people he wasn't ok, or average, he was fantastic.

    As far as having no respect for anybody but his distorted vision of a supreme race, he excelled far beyond the call of duty. A lesser dictator might have taken pity on children but not the Furor. He had supreme ability to not give a fuck about anybody.

    I mean, I never met old Adolf, but I bet he put a 110% into every death camp he signed off on. Forget Saddam, Osama, or OJ. If you’re talking about fucking up the human race, Hitler wasn't just another all-star. The guy was G.O.A.T.
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    Ill sum it up in two words "EVIL GENIUS"

    any of u seen the maps of some concentration camps, those were brutally efficient at everything. Also he took half the world, and had a good chance of winning the war, that is great. He was a sick bastard though.

    and alxander the great is better":-)

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    great meaning larger than life great? yup, to many people this guy was god. to some he still is. def. not good, but a big player in the political world.

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    Atilla the Hun > Hitler, Alexander the Great, Sun Tzu and Napoleon.

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    From my eyes, as a speaker and mulipulater... he is great...
    There is no one who has ever done what he has done, and i dont think anyone will ever do what he did. He first mulitulated himself to the top of the political chain over time... advanced a country to be one of the powers of the world... almost won a world war, which he would have taken over the world if had the chance... his speaches were incredable and very intense... no one is like him, and thats the truth... am i ignoring the fact he was a horrible person??? HELL NO, i think he had a direct conection with satan more than anything. he was cold blooded and decieveing... there is nothing worste than that... those are my reasons for believing he was great... but every great has there faults...

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    He didn't mutilate himself to the top of the political chain, he was actually born with only one testacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Black

    Surprised? I was too when I typed in "greatness" in a search engine. I had been in a debate about the greatness of this man years ago, but I still didn’t expect to see his picture. Yet I agree; Even though he was an evil bastard, he was great. Do you agree? Why, or why not?
    I'm going to take this oppertunity to take a jab at you so take it like a man. I don't intend to go back and forth with you but I would like you to refer back to the Affirmative Action thread where i said you sounded like a white supremacist. add this thread to the proof catagory.
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    and you must be a black supremacist with your avatar, right?

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    "Atilla the Hun > Hitler, Alexander the Great, Sun Tzu and Napoleon"

    Do you see that, Dubious? It's a list of leaders. Do I believe they are great: Yes. Do I believe in what they stood for: No.

    You say I'm a white supremacist, but I say I'm a man. Part of being a man is being able to respect the man you're at odds with and even acknowledge his greatness, if he so deserves. Like I said, I opened this thread cause I searched 'Greatness' and this picture came up. I have Langston Hughes in my av for God's sake. I also had Huey P. Newton in my Av before Langston. I also had Billie Holiday.

    If you want to call me a white supremacist because I can respect my enemy, carry on(Even though most Black, Civil Rights leaders would agree, including the guy in your Av). If you want to call me a white supremacist because and I'm against being judged by my skin, carry onEven though most Black, Civil Rights leaders would agree, including the guy in your Av). If you want to call me a white supremacist because I don’t want to be given an advantage based on race, carry on Even though most Black, Civil Rights leaders would agree, including the guy in your Av).

    I’m a Black man, and I find it weird that you would continue to call me names because I don’t believe in advantages based on race. Malcolm and Martin died so race wouldn’t be a factor in this country and you attack me because I agree with that philosophy? Your logic is flawed, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Class
    and you must be a black supremacist with your avatar, right?
    Yes because Malik el Hajj Shabazz was a Black supremacist. you fuckin idiot.

    and Chris I told you it was a damn joke calmate
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    Yes, I've seen video of him speaking and dude has a powerful voice.
    If you can take a bunch of sane men, and turn them into insane
    soldiers, then you deserve the 'Greatness" title.
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